In this topic some people are wondering about a build for 2.3, they are considering different builds, even such crazy stuff like 23 in prot for stun and improved shield bash, but no one is considering putting more then 5 points in fury but less then 20. It’s like black hole, there is a psychological barrier that stops people from going for like 11 in fury to grab piercing howl, without looking at Enrage. Reason? Enrage is just too good. Let’s face it, no other class has a talent comparable to Enrage, 25% damage boost that can be perma up in many PvP situations, paladins got Vengeance which got nerfed few times, sure it triggers on dealing crit and not taking it (thus it’s usable in PvE), but it’s only 15% and it has to be stacked 3 times to those 15%. When Enrage was nerfed from 40% to 25% I was upset about that (not long tho, as my warrior did very fine after the nerf), now I’m actually hoping Blizzard will nerf enrage to 15%, that would make builds like 44/14/3 viable without looking gimped in various situations where Enrage can be used, and after all that time with 33/28 I want my TM, especially now when Disarm will become such a critical tool in PvP.

Yes, I’m a warrior and I want Enrage nerfed, throw your stones now.

UPDATE: Well, I think I can add a bit before you start calling me an idiot in comments. Personally, I believe that Enrage is responsible for the way high Arms talents look. Let’s face it, Fury warriors (the ones that do PvE at least, are there any other?) don’t give a shit about Enrage, in fact, they want it unlinked from Flurry so they don’t have to pay 10 talent points for it. The mid-tree fury talents were extremely potent and still are such, Enrage with Death Wish next to each other along with Intercept. While MS is required to PvP for it’s utility and burst, the critical mass of our PvP offensive power comes from fury tree, well, used to be as Patch 2.3 should be here by now (tomorrow in Europe). Putting DW to Arms makes sense since it doesn’t stack with Enrage anymore. If TM was in Arms, everyone and his dog would be 41/20 in 2.3, with some people taking Sweeping Strikes instead of ER for some odd reasons. After patch 2.3 TM has to compete with ER and Enrage for our talent points, and it’s often loosing that battle, it’s not loosing a battle against ER, it’s loosing a battle against Enrage. Enrage is our curse, it’s powerful tool, but it’s a tool that’s not always usable (fighting shadow priests and warlocks), and when it’s not usable we can feel gimped. There are huge problems with balancing our class with Enrage in it’s current form, seriously, I’d rather like some independent stable dps without the ups and downs that Enrage is giving me now. Nerf enrage and the doors for new, fun and balanced talents, come WotLK, will open.

Terhix